tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1639577993851585768.post7250578785346758773..comments2023-11-05T03:36:58.051-08:00Comments on Ch'know?: When is enough really enough?Alicia Chenauxhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/03852205565340450253noreply@blogger.comBlogger16125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1639577993851585768.post-66640175135653332272008-06-06T21:24:00.000-07:002008-06-06T21:24:00.000-07:00Nah. If I'm gonna hook up in Second Life, my philo...Nah. If I'm gonna hook up in Second Life, my philosophy on that is that it's not ME that's hooking up, it's my AVATAR. Similarly, it's not whoever's on the other end of the girl's avatar that's hooking up with me, it's the avatar herself. Anything that will ruin that kind of perspective, I'm not interested in.<BR/><BR/>Hey, don't hate the avatar, hate the game ;)Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1639577993851585768.post-58182204798689176882008-05-30T12:38:00.000-07:002008-05-30T12:38:00.000-07:00I wandered in here through the NWN blog. I agree w...I wandered in here through the NWN blog. I agree with you 100%. I see the situation like her being in your home. You don't have to accept inappropriate behavior in your house in RL, and the same as in properties you own in Second Life. I think that she went beyond the line and if she were in MY Property, the first sign she was driving people away she'd have been banned. You have much more patience than I do.Gahum Riptidehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07197423958850232408noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1639577993851585768.post-27237166338644290252008-05-30T10:47:00.000-07:002008-05-30T10:47:00.000-07:00First red flag: any comment by an anonymous poster...First red flag: any comment by an anonymous poster. I don't even allow it on my own blog.<BR/><BR/>Unfortunately, people allow one-sided comments (and full articles) to totally influence them. Then they jump on the flame bandwagon, riding the hearsay tidal wave because any reason to hate someone is good - it releases endorphins into the blood stream - which is candy your our brains.<BR/><BR/>heh.<BR/><BR/>Personally, I see a one-sided anything, I do a double take and take it with a grain of salt.<BR/><BR/>*Anything* posted by 'anonymous' is cast aside immediately without thought.<BR/><BR/>Mr. or Ms. anonymous can always put their name into the post itself.<BR/><BR/>Like so:<BR/><BR/>Ari Blackthorne<BR/><BR/>P.S. - Excellent and interesting article. :)Ari Blackthorne™https://www.blogger.com/profile/02558174810554904434noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1639577993851585768.post-57230527729340872492008-05-30T10:15:00.000-07:002008-05-30T10:15:00.000-07:00Welcome, NWN readers! :) Yes, to go with what Cen ...Welcome, NWN readers! :) <BR/><BR/>Yes, to go with what Cen said, we HAVE spoken to her. And the answer is always "Ok." In fact, that's her answer to almost anything that anyone says, no matter if it's telling her to take herself off the mic, or asking her if she prefers blue or red. It is highly frustrating.<BR/><BR/>As to why we've put up with it...well, SL has a different learning curve than RL. :) Sometimes people that we meet [Cen and I help a LOT of newbies] come into SL not knowing what it is. They come in as if it was any other game, not a place where real people are hanging out. We thought after the first month, that things would settle down. But after 3 months...what you see is what you get. Talking and explaining things to her hasn't helped because either she doesn't understand what we've said, or she forgets on a day to day basis, or she simply doesn't think we're serious and so she doesn't care. I don't know.Alicia Chenauxhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03852205565340450253noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1639577993851585768.post-90042724622370817892008-05-30T08:57:00.000-07:002008-05-30T08:57:00.000-07:00@ DaleYes Hester does consider us to be her closes...@ Dale<BR/>Yes Hester does consider us to be her closest friends. I have spoken with her repeatedly regarding not only turning off her mic, but specifically not to IM certain individuals.<BR/><BR/>I've even told her what a difficult position she's put us in as we have friends who no longer wish to be around her.<BR/><BR/>Her answer is always "OK" and some behaviours have improved slightly, but after months of dealing with this I think Ali and I have just reached our limits.<BR/><BR/>@Iggy I am a little embarassed that our dilema has reached New World Notes. I don't think Ali normally would have spilled the entire story like this except for the fact that we had some fall out directed as us, particularly Ali, in some comments on Dyami's blog regarding this topic.<BR/><BR/>Sorry Ali - I'm taking up your comments here but I know you are sick in bed.Chttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03683140405177511244noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1639577993851585768.post-47490647458631322272008-05-30T08:47:00.000-07:002008-05-30T08:47:00.000-07:00Why would you tolerate behaviour in Second Life th...Why would you tolerate behaviour in Second Life that you wouldn't in RL?<BR/><BR/>What iggy said.Jane2https://www.blogger.com/profile/07086867365494467879noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1639577993851585768.post-10657503560135611832008-05-30T07:58:00.000-07:002008-05-30T07:58:00.000-07:00Sounds like she sort of considers you a friend, an...Sounds like she sort of considers you a friend, and you should at least in theory be able to talk to her. <BR/><BR/>Maybe you've already done this, but you might just tell her straight out that the always-on voice and the constant hitting on the men is producing complaints and driving people away, and could she please stop? <BR/><BR/>She may be hurt or not understand or argue that you're wrong, but seems like you really need to do this before you can consider ejecting or banning.<BR/><BR/>"She also had us ban one of HER friends": Sounds to me like you're giving her a bit too much control here. :) Surely she shouldn't be able to "have you" ban people? Unless you just mean from her own rental...Dale Innishttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02771522211082181738noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1639577993851585768.post-10065578384993785252008-05-30T04:22:00.000-07:002008-05-30T04:22:00.000-07:00Nice to see that New World Notes covered this mora...Nice to see that New World Notes covered this moral quandary.<BR/><BR/>I've gotten harder-hearted over the last 18 months about people like those you describe. And I'm a volunteer mentor.<BR/><BR/>These folks are not healthy. I'm just glad you don't have to deal with them IRL. I'd ban, mute, and move on. You might want to sit down with Hester and tell her WHY you are doing this. She obviously has no compassion for others, and she may turn vindictive, but, hey! If she cannot hold onto a baldie wig, she'll never figure out how to use an orbiter on you.<BR/><BR/>SL is too short to have to put up with energy-vampires and people who don't care about what their children overhear.<BR/><BR/>Good luck!Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1639577993851585768.post-87648043227824355472008-05-29T12:42:00.000-07:002008-05-29T12:42:00.000-07:00I have to read the blogs more. I had no idea someo...I have to read the blogs more. I had no idea someone was griefing you about this. Maybe it is because I witnessed how you guys agonized over it, trying to come up with ways to handle the situation respectfully and tactfully. I like to think I am a nice guy and I put up with a lot (to the point of being a push over) but even I have to say you guys went above and beyond.Bon Bermanhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11103250851181232548noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1639577993851585768.post-63562969249176482412008-05-29T11:59:00.000-07:002008-05-29T11:59:00.000-07:00You know what Ali?I woke up today feeling like an ...You know what Ali?<BR/><BR/>I woke up today feeling like an "enough!" moment might be coming on.<BR/><BR/>Just so you can prepare and bring popcorn and a chair this time to watch the show LOL.Chttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03683140405177511244noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1639577993851585768.post-61726550819702219962008-05-29T08:35:00.000-07:002008-05-29T08:35:00.000-07:00This is awesome!! It's like thee most perfect SL®...This is awesome!! <BR/><BR/>It's like thee most perfect SL® soap opera recap one could ever hope for. :-) I don't even care if the names have been changed, or if it's entirely fictional, or whatever, I read the whole thing and am sad the story ended! <BR/><BR/>Good stuff, Ali! :-)Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1639577993851585768.post-48029530571266140202008-05-29T03:45:00.000-07:002008-05-29T03:45:00.000-07:00If you friends are telling and Cen that they are a...If you friends are telling and Cen that they are avoiding your club because of the duo, they are at the very least they are both "disturbing the peace" at a your club. In RL that results in management calling the police for the person to be removed if they don't respond to requests to leave. <BR/><BR/>I am considered easy going, but I would have already refunded the unused portion of her rent (yay castle) and banned them.Casandra Shilovahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03547045511644749729noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1639577993851585768.post-25278731709360985352008-05-28T17:19:00.000-07:002008-05-28T17:19:00.000-07:00Alicia, of course I only know your side of the sto...Alicia, of course I only know your side of the story, but from what I can tell here you've had the patience of a saint this this girl. She would have been out on her arse a long time ago if it were me in your position, and I totally don't see the blame in coming to the conclusion that she's not someone you want around when she hasn't bothered to show otherwise.<BR/><BR/>Of course as I said I don't know the full picture, but if, as you said, she and her husband have been so relentless with their...overtures...that they've driven people away from the sim just to escape her, I think that's plenty grounds to ban her for harassment. That's your and CeNedra's decision if it's gone that far though, of course.Kharisma Llewellynhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09642074066128939353noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1639577993851585768.post-55136219212861248872008-05-28T14:28:00.000-07:002008-05-28T14:28:00.000-07:00I didn't even really write this for me. I wrote i...I didn't even really write this for me. I wrote it just in case someone else thinks that we're just being mean for no reason. There's a story behind every story. lolAlicia Chenauxhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03852205565340450253noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1639577993851585768.post-5305170421785778882008-05-28T13:57:00.000-07:002008-05-28T13:57:00.000-07:00it's okay alicia, i still luff ya.dont let an anon...it's okay alicia, i still luff ya.<BR/><BR/>dont let an anon comment get ya down, they don't really know you and it's not nice for them to judge so quick, w/o the whole story....Sehra Kauffmanhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08343918197766561914noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1639577993851585768.post-31868845117291884332008-05-28T13:45:00.000-07:002008-05-28T13:45:00.000-07:00Well said Alicia.....Well said Alicia.....Dyami Jamesonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06288445293051412784noreply@blogger.com